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Summary Comments : [Vox] What made North Korea so bizarre

Ru***:

Wait, no, this video fails on a number of very important points:

1. North Korea is a Communist movement. More specifically, it is a Maoist Communist movement, meaning that it is a populist movement supporting the peasants (as opposed to industrial workers, which is Stalinist - see Sino-Soviet split if you are unaware of the deep divisions in the Communist world). The reason why these guys are in power in the North is because of the stark contrast between their response against Japanese occupation and the South Korean response. The latter submitted to Japanese rule through aristocrats who essentially sold out to the Japanese in exchange for notable positions of power in Korea and the people couldn't muster enough power to overthrow these puppet rulers. The former had a much different story. Instead, the peasants seized control of the national dialogue, suppressing the aristocrats who ruled at the time, and resisted Japanese occupation far more fervently. That is how a populist movement seizes control - the rural, uneducated, and downtrodden rise up in a revolution, just according to their beliefs. That narrative is filled with the underdog theme, which we see today in all their media. For an American analogue, consider the Confederate states or the Tea Party movement. For a more European one, consider the French Revolution.

2. The Korean War devastated North Korea. More specifically, our firebombs did so much damage that it makes World War 2 and the atomic bombs look like child's play. American bombers did not just bomb industrial targets, it bombed all civilian infrastructure as well. According to US Air Force assessments at the time, "eighteen of twenty-two major cities in North Korea had been at least half obliterated." Pyongyang, which was 75% obliterated, was so devastated that bombing runs halted because there were no more worthy targets left. You might be tempted to think that North Korea has a victimization complex where it purposefully doesn't feed its own people, but realize that when your entire country's infrastructure is obliterated and people have to live in caves and foxholes for a year in order to survive, there really isn't much the government or people can do, especially if the aggressor doesn't fund reconstruction efforts and imposes economic sanctions.

We would normally consider that kind of absolute war campaign a war crime today, but they were conducted at the height of McCarthyism, Red Scare, and sinophobia. MacArthur was extremely sinophobic, wanting to nuke the Chinese mainland and exterminate the chinaman, and he led US forces until Truman deposed him (Congress at the time gave him a standing ovation for his service, indicative of the rampant racism at the time). Needless to say, North Korea sees it as a war crime, but we refused to recognize it as such because... America.

3. North Korea shares a very different history than South Korea. Korea was generally split into three kingdoms for a very long time; Goguryeo to the North, Silla to the Southeast, and Baekjae to the Southwest. They were united under the Goryeo and Joseon dynasties for almost a millenium, but these differences can be used to justify divisions within the formerly unified country, especially in times of unrest. While their people aren't as diverse and divergent as the Chinese are, they too can draw lines in centuries old sand if it serves to legitimize a rule that fills some void. That is especially the case when Japan was forced to abandon its occupation following WW2. Has it mattered thus far? No, not really, but it's a case that can create everlasting cultural divisions and one that Korea can descend into if left divided for too long.

4. Much informational sourcing here in the US about North Korea sucks. We get our narrative through people who are polar opposites of the political opinion of the region (defectors) and western reporters who are seen as agents of oppressors. Of course we're going to get a skewed view of things!

I have yet to see a single western news source use the many Chinese blogs of international students studying abroad in North Korea (yes, they are a thing). These students, while still given privileged status and are forced to use a separate currency when purchasing things, are able to walk streets with average North Koreans. The general assessment is that North Korea looks a lot like 1970s China. The locals often ask the students why they're interested in their poor, backwards country (the students each have their own reasons, of course). They are deeply aware of how poor they are and are collectively shamed and afraid of showing that to the rest of the world. They put on airs to "show a good face" to foreigners, hence why they go to great lengths to portray a separate, nicer North Korea. It stems from humility, from neighborliness, from a desire to accomodate visitors. Hell, they do the same thing when their own relatives visit (on that rare occassion):
http://www.npr.org/2014/06/27/326155818/two-bowls

US media is in general terrible at reporting about North Korea. Most people don't even see these people as human. Why base your knowledge off of these conditions that are bound to cause misunderstandings and inaccuracies? I mean, how wrong would you be about Japan if you still believed they had snake slits for eyes and were here to steal your women?

Come on Vox, step it up.


 


 

Playtime Comments : [Vox] What made North Korea so bizarre

Fu******************:
0:27 Oh, you said "Japan first colonized Korea" there, I think you meant to say "invaded". Easy mistake to make.

Wa************:
Vox, your 'sound bite' journalism and education might seem good in theory but you need to understand 99% of the viewers stop research once the video is over. I dont find this very responsible in fact it's kind of misleading. To sum up North Korea's 'crazy' behaviour in a 2:37min video is extremely cocky and ignorant. This is one of the most complex states/governments in history yet your 20 something year old commentator made it seem like it was nothing. Not cool.

Ti****:
1:35 Yeah, it's clearly a "big lie" to suggest that the US might invade a country it doesn't like.

me***********:

0:41
Funny enough, there's a theory that the Korean and Japanese languages are related.


En************:
0:02 North Korea has enough money to buy little bird attack choppers, tell me a better joke

Es*********:
0:38 - 0:45 Why is that tune so nice? I just keep listening to it.

Be******:
2:05 it’s not they were told he was some god they think they won’t be “protected” now probably

Li********:

2:36 nice words Matt Fisher


Kn********:

1:34 North Korea is even more Orwellian than I would have guessed.


la**************:

1:52 I have NEVER heard of a single North Korean going back to North Korea willingly. An this video says MOST of them go back? MAJOR BS They are probably working in china and they are forced to go back or else their entire families would end up in prison or shot.


 

 

Top Comments : [Vox] What made North Korea so bizarre

Ad**********************:
It's Stockholm Syndrome on a national level.

45****:
Japan INVADED or ANNEXED korea, not colonized it....

iv******:
funny, 1% of US population also lives in prison camps

th**********:

I'm a Korean, and I think he really hit the nail on the head. great job!!


Ne*********:
To me it's just sad.

Al********:
thye probably just kill them if they dont cry

AG**********:

I know it's never going to happen, but I want South Korea and North Korea to be Korea.


sp*********:
i dont think the US cares about how they treat their people. after all we are friends with saudi arabia we only care about whether we can trade with you and reap big profits

Ju***********:

People who support NK and ignore the crimes against humanity committed by their leaders are just as dangerous.


Al**:

You left out the part where America killed several million Korean civilians in its Korean war. Might have had something to do with the state of N. Korea Today, Ya think?


Te****:
The mind is a terrible thing to waste.

Ma*****:
this world sounds like straight out of a novel

Ch*********:
The US and rest of the world realize that North Korea is bat shit crazy. We are not really worried about a war though. The reason why is, China holds HUGE influence of the North. China might not be our friends, but they certainly dont want an attack on us either. We buy and contribute so much to their economy that North Korea will never actually attack because they fear Chinese influence.

Ri*****:

Do I sense a little Marxist revisionism with the "North Korea is fascist" thinking?


Jo******:

Hang on a second, defectors willingly go back to North Korea? Don't they get executed or something for leaving?


ha********:
Vox should do one on "How the US got so crazy". That would be interesting.

Xe*********:

next up - "Why americans are so easy to distract from humanitarian problems"...


dt**:

"Got so crazy"...
Our view about North Korea is probably the same as how North Korea views the rest of the world.. (ISIS, Trump running for president, refugees, etc)


Re************:

But the real question is: do they have oil?


Bl******:

"Most" North Koreans who defect go back eventually? I've heard of a few cases like that, but I think it's a tiny minority of defectors.


Ch*********:
So wait, all these bad examples that North Korea got was from the Fascist Like Imperial Japan and not from Batshit Mao or Stalin as other extreme leftish Ideology?
WOW!

De*******:
Dystopian.. this sounds likea dystopian novel

Ha**********:
This is called the Art of saying a lot without saying anything...

Al*********:

"Colonized"


Th************:
is the quality of the videos is amazing for YouTube channel it's almost like a TV show

We****:
So, wow! You completely skipped the Korean war?

El*********:
A country that imposes heavy taxes to support an overgrown military and monitoring citizens on a massive scale? wow I'm glad that here, in the United States, we don't have to deal with that.

St************:
They keep 1% of their population in Prison camps? Dam, which other country could be so heavy handed with its own population?

Da******:
2:00, let me add up on this, as it doesn't really explain with all of these people "crying".

It is not as surprising as the commentator says as city of Pyong Yang is the city where almost every single households are loyal to the government. The people who lives in the city are mostly a high class citizens (and yes, there are "classes" between citizens)

There are tv shows of where escaped north koreans talk about their story. The people ranges from common people, poor all the way to high ranking military officials/propaganda directives to even top class citizen. They go through a lot of things such as state of affair in NK, leader's death and so on.

 


 

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